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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Jcancom on Thu May 28, 2015 05:46 PM

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M0252 has 1.17 g/ml. $77.70 for 25 ml.

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/search?term=methylglyoxa

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Jcancom on Thu May 28, 2015 06:03 PM

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I am very excited about moving 3-BP forward through the crowdfunding route. Bromo Pyruvate has made a comment (scroll down the page, post is first under heading Posts to Page) on the wehaveacure website suggesting that patients with serious cancer should post to that site to alert others that they are seeking funding. Hopefully, this can move 3-BP forward.

We only need a few more terminal cancer patients successfully treated with 3-BP to change public opinion.

https://www.facebook.com/TheCancerCure

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by jetsparkle on Thu May 28, 2015 06:42 PM

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Please be very wary of some of the Mexican clinics. Should anything be contaminated or anything go wrong,  they are known for not being responsible with their patients.

You are then on your own should there be any mishaps.

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by mahkcots on Thu May 28, 2015 11:23 PM

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Thank you. Would you happen to know what German institutes those would be?

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Jcancom on Thu May 28, 2015 11:54 PM

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Bad link. Article is Open Access. Just click on url and download the pdf.

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10863-012-9417-4

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Jcancom on Fri May 29, 2015 12:28 PM

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I am very excited about the idea of crowdfunding treatment with 3-BP for a patient with end stage cancer. We just need to shop this one around and we could get ignition.

One legal question arises though: Could the receipt of alternative medical care result in the invalidation of insurance coverage?

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Jcancom on Fri May 29, 2015 05:01 PM

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I am disappointed that thread posts are again going missing. One of my posts that was on the forum has just vanished!

To avoid this problem in the future I will copy all my future posts and post them to the wiki if there are any discrepancies.

In my deleted post, I noted that  the Sohag Cancer Institute in Egypt should now be understood to a research leader in 3-BP treatment. Their treatment with IV 3-BP combined with paracetamol has redefined the cancer treatment landscape. The liver patient received direct injections intraarterially to the liver. This would not have wide application for cancer patients. The melanoma patient treated in Egypt at a massive response with simple IV 3-BP.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24636230

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Danielus on Fri May 29, 2015 05:12 PM

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I know a few in Germany that may do that - not institutes but private clinics. (Most/All of them do not advertise that on their website although they will write it down on the bill.) If you can find any institute there, please let us know.

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Jcancom on Fri May 29, 2015 05:33 PM

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I am pushing ahead with the crowdfunding idea. I thought why not free ride off the money some of the patients on the crowdfunding sites have already raised? Some of the people on these sites have already raised quite a bit of money, though they often do not have a clear idea on what treatment might help them. More chemotherapy is probably not going to help them! It probably hasn't up to this point.

My idea is to comment on sites where the patient might benefit from 3-BP treatment. This could really move things forward. It might not require  any new fundraising!

(By the way, does any one have an opinion on Induction Chemotherapy versus 3-BP?)

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Jcancom on Fri May 29, 2015 06:48 PM

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Glad to see the Inspire thread is back and running. I was worried that they knew something (that is, something bad about 3-BP).

We should welcome when they stop by on our thread. A little bit of poaching.

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by mahkcots on Fri May 29, 2015 11:37 PM

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Do you know their names?

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Jcancom on Fri May 29, 2015 11:48 PM

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Log into the inspire forum, search for 3-Bromopyruvate. Read the Stateside thread. One of their cross-over posters was audiop (see top of page 86).

It is always a good idea, though, to have diversity of opinion. Popular opinion is typically driven by a few opionion setters. With 3-BP, it is very helpful if we can avoid group think and try and stay objective.

https://www.inspire.com/?ref=as&asat=269190176

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Danielus on Sat May 30, 2015 05:04 AM

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Than we should welcome you every day since you are an active member on inspire as well. .:-)

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Genelle on Sat May 30, 2015 10:43 AM

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What happened at the recent Boston conference?

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Genelle on Sat May 30, 2015 01:36 PM

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Jcancome  it would be fairly easy for the medical powers that be to interfere with 3BP clinics here in the US. If we used a clinic in Germany or Switzerland would that be more credible and more difficult to discredit?

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Genelle on Sat May 30, 2015 01:59 PM

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In the past I have been in contact with the famous Lucas Klinik in Switzerland their Dr Lorenz. If they did 3BP it would be a very well received piece of research.

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Jcancom on Sat May 30, 2015 02:37 PM

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Use of 3BP

bykathymccon Mon May 04, 2015 02:34 PM

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"I'm interested in more inputs on 3BP as I'm involved with a medical center outside the US who are considering starting a clinical trial."

Does this mean what I think it means? That is, Freeport wants to do a clinical trial with 3-BP?

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Genelle on Sat May 30, 2015 02:51 PM

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Jcancom update: I do 2 per week DCA IVs and requested a Vit C IV after the poly MVA and DCA. Seems to help with mental confusion the only side effect I have so far. The doctor says I can switch to pills which would be a lower dose with GI effects. They are using Dr Anderson's protocol for DCA.

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Genelle on Sat May 30, 2015 03:08 PM

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The HE4 went down by 60

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by mahkcots on Sat May 30, 2015 10:30 PM

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Are there any that offer an intra-arteial hepatic infusion? Would the centers in Arizona or Atlanta have that capability?

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Genelle on Sat May 30, 2015 10:31 PM

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Not sure about AZ but Atlanta has an MD

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Danielus on Sun May 31, 2015 04:24 AM

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Yes, but because those are not advertising 3BP treatments on their webpage I cannot share their names in public. I can give you the details on private msg. if you need that. But why do you need the info?

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Jcancom on Sun May 31, 2015 12:45 PM

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Does anyone have an opinion on the combiniation DCA and paracetamol?

The third patient in the article below had a good response to IV DCA. However, it is not clear whether he was taking paracetamol at the same time as IV DCA.

The IV 3-BP and paracetamol produced a metabolic cure in the melanoma patient after two treatments.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25362214

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Jcancom on Sun May 31, 2015 12:46 PM

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Yes, I agree. Treatment at centres outside of first world nations such as America and Germany would have to beconsidered carefully. bid

It is also worth pointing out that there is now quite a trade in 3-BP through Chinese sellers. For example, what is being called Pharmaceutical Intermediate 3-BP is now on sale (99% purity).

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/3--bromopyruvate.html

http://www.molbase.com/en/search.html?search_type=text&s

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RE: Anyone used 3bp (3-bromopyruvate)?
by Jcancom on Sun May 31, 2015 01:37 PM

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It is quite remarkable how much of the 3-BP how purity product is being offered for sale. Does anyone know whether this high quality 3-BP has only recently been marketed? There appears to be substantial production capacity for it. The site noted above has suppliers offering product with minimum orders of 1 kilogram.

I wonder if some of these suppliers would offer products more aimed at the consumer level. For example, perhaps they could create pills of say 10 mg 3-BP with very high chemical purity and detailed chemical descriptions. Such a description might be able to provide assurance that  any contaminant had been determined to not be harmuful to human health.

Another idea of product they could aim at the consumer would be a sterile IV 3-BP product. Perhaps such a product could contain the whole set-up for a sterile IV administration. For example, an IV bag, a dose of 3-BP, places to add water etc..

